Welcome to Episode 103 of The Unfiltered & Undiscovered Podcast, where once again we discover Five Songs of Meaning from a music fan.
Catt Gunn joins us this week with the five songs that mean something to her—commencing with memories of mum and road trips, to spell-binding live performances from an Aussie icon.
A great story that i know you will love.
A rolling rollicking conversation that you just cannot afford to miss.
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Artist Links
I Don’t Blame You – Cat Power – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNoj4oXvQI8
America – Simon & Garfunkel – https://youtu.be/sFAoWwUwknc
Meet me in the Middle of the Air – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g34-nB3oym4
Sleep – Allen Stone – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G29lvYkSjY
Enter Sandman – Metallica – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD-E-LDc384
Song Played During Show
Igloo (Instrumental) Mick Medew & Ursula – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YozmjXMiGRs
Final Song
I Only Wanna Be With You – Allison Asarhc – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKTo89SR5u8
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Transcript
Curly:
Hey there and welcome to episode 103 of the Unfiltered and Undiscovered podcast. We’ve got a very special guest coming to us today from the far north of our beautiful state of Queensland. But before we go there, let’s, let’s welcome our co-host. We’ve got Bragi over there in Adelaide and we’ve got Rossi that’s in morning for the roosters in Sydney. How are we both?
Rossy:
Reports of their demise is premature.
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
I’m good, Curly outnumbered by rugby league fans tonight, three to
Curly:
Yeah,
Tave:
one, but that’s
Curly:
yeah.
Tave:
all right.
Rossy:
Welcome to Australia.
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
How many did you get?
Curly:
But
Tave:
How
Curly:
that’s…
Tave:
many was it at the Magic Round? Like 5,000? Like normally you get to the NRL?
Rossy:
50,000 every day, there was 50,000
Curly:
Yeah,
Rossy:
every day. They
Curly:
so our
Rossy:
couldn’t
Curly:
special
Rossy:
fit
Curly:
guest,
Rossy:
any more in.
Curly:
yeah, our special guest was at Magic
Tave:
Yes.
Curly:
Ground 2, no doubt as well. So yeah, 150,000, three days of sellouts, fantastic atmosphere, great. And no videos of punch ups in the crowd, which is always a win. So I think for Magic Ground.
Rossy:
something magic has happened in Queensland.
Curly:
Yeah, finally. Yeah, fine. Oh, yeah, not fun. Hey, look, people may be wondering why I’m wearing this.
Tave:
Ah,
Curly:
This
Tave:
look
Curly:
is
Tave:
at
Curly:
the
Tave:
this!
Curly:
shirt I wore at Boston. Curly
Rossy:
Hey.
Curly:
finally got our medal. We were unfortunately Boston Marathon ran out of medals, believe it or not.
Tave:
Hold
Curly:
And
Tave:
it up
Curly:
so
Tave:
close to
Curly:
we’ve
Tave:
the camera.
Curly:
been
Tave:
Hold it up close to the camera.
Curly:
We’ve been we’ve been waiting
Tave:
Oh, it’s a
Curly:
patiently.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
unicorn.
Rossy:
Ha
Curly:
Yeah, the unicorn.
Rossy:
ha!
Curly:
So Been waiting patiently and today it came. So Sharon and I took our Metal Monday photos and after you run a marathon, you wear your medal for at least a day. Sharon never does, but I do. So that’s why I’m wearing it tonight. So.
Tave:
Okay.
Rossy:
Look, I think I think you’ve heard it man.
Tave:
Yeah, man.
Rossy:
I
Curly:
Oh,
Rossy:
couldn’t do it
Curly:
absolutely. Hey, look, the only little bit of news I’ve got is Ursula, the wonderful Ursula from Mick and Ursula shared a great video that was done from one of their gigs over the weekend and Mick and Ursula do an incredible instrumental version of that classic song, Igloo, and the video she shared was the crowd actually taking out the channel. The challenge wasn’t given, but they were singing along to it. And I just thought, that’s magical. Fancy having such a powerful song as part of your repertoire that people just sing along to. You saw that, Rossy?
Rossy:
Yeah, that song has
Tave:
Yeah,
Rossy:
been
Tave:
it’s
Rossy:
very
Tave:
great.
Rossy:
good to Michael. In fact, it’s paid my rent a few times to him here to tell you.
Curly:
Hahaha.
Rossy:
It’s a fabulous track and he’s done a great like we just love him. He’s just
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
yeah, he’s just such a good bloke.
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
And it’s sure and he having a really good time and I love to say it.
Curly:
that instrumental version of igloo is just phenomenal. So I love it. And it was just magical. And you know, it certainly would make, I think Ursula talked about it, making you feel warm. And you know, it certainly would. So,
Rossy:
Mmm.
Curly:
so Braggie, I’m gonna throw to you because you are going to introduce our special guest.
Tave:
super special guest today, all the way from North Queensland up in Townsville. We have to thank Kat, because she got us out of a bit of a bind today. We had someone that was going to be on that
Curly:
We
Tave:
fell.
Curly:
did have Sean Fraser, didn’t we?
Tave:
Yeah, we did have Shawnee Bear. Shawnee Bear’s got a bit crook. So
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
at the last minute I reached out to Kat and she was like, yep, I can do it. And I don’t know how you pick five songs because we’re going to do five songs that mean something. And Kat came back to me and said, What about eight? No, that’s why
Curly:
Ha
Tave:
I don’t
Curly:
ha
Rossy:
Oh,
Tave:
do
Curly:
ha.
Tave:
it. That’s why
Rossy:
so
Tave:
I don’t
Rossy:
she’s
Tave:
do
Rossy:
a friend
Tave:
it.
Rossy:
of yours.
Tave:
Yeah.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
That’s exactly right. So cat welcome all the way from up there. Cowboy supporter up there in North Queensland. Thanks for, thanks for coming on. Thanks for helping us out.
Cat:
Thank you so much for having me. I’m quite honoured to be here. Thank you.
Curly:
And it’s quite interesting, Kat, that you tailed up the roosters last week at Magic Ground, and then you’ve got the dragons this week up there in North Queensland. So,
Rossy:
Surely the dragons are due a win. They’ve gotta be due a win.
Curly:
that’s
Cat:
The
Curly:
what
Cat:
week
Curly:
I…
Cat:
after maybe, maybe around 12.
Rossy:
Hahaha!
Tave:
Okay.
Curly:
I think if they don’t win this week, they’re going to be minus a coach, I reckon.
Rossy:
But the Cowboys could be a little bit tired after overextending themselves last weekend too.
Curly:
Yeah,
Cat:
really
Curly:
yeah,
Cat:
I don’t know
Curly:
yeah.
Cat:
if they’ve ever played in Wales before which we had to do
Curly:
Hmm.
Cat:
on the weekend.
Curly:
So, um, can’t share a little bit about your background and how you, how you came to know Braggie.
Cat:
I met Tate 3 Theatre when we did the musical Body, I think,
Tave:
Yeah,
Cat:
in
Tave:
that’s
Cat:
the
Tave:
right.
Cat:
Townsville scene. So yeah, I used to do amateur theatre and then did a few gigs solo just in the pubs around for a couple of years and mainly just a point and an hour. Just love listening and following.
Tave:
I need to do something else. Just to let you know. I
Cat:
It’s
Tave:
need to
Cat:
very
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
go
Cat:
popular.
Tave:
out. No time to do that. I’m gonna go.
Cat:
No, I haven’t done shows for a while. No time consuming though, but yeah, they’re very fun.
Rossy:
So you said you did Buddy, what else have you done? What other shows?
Cat:
Um, fame, Les Mis, sweet charity, Hot Luce,
Rossy:
Right,
Cat:
most of
Rossy:
right.
Cat:
them need a colour dream coat a few times. Yeah.
Rossy:
Yeah, it’s hard work.
Cat:
It
Rossy:
It’s
Cat:
is.
Rossy:
really hard work. It really is.
Tave:
It’s a
Cat:
Yeah.
Tave:
lot of hours and you, because it’s like community theory, you don’t get paid anything really either.
Cat:
You literally pay to do it.
Tave:
But it was so,
Rossy:
Oh yeah.
Tave:
so much fun. That was the first one I did, Buddy. And I did a couple more after that in the pit, in the band. It was just, I loved it so much.
Cat:
Yeah,
Tave:
It was great.
Cat:
yeah, it’s a great community.
Tave:
Mm.
Curly:
Excellent. So Kat, when Bragi reached out to you today and said, can you jump in and five songs, what initially went through your mind?
Cat:
Well, I have to admit the first episode of you guys ever saw was when Ruby did her choir songs.
Tave:
That’s
Cat:
And
Tave:
right.
Cat:
when that first came up I thought, what would I do? And every time I watched it I sort of thought about it and the list has evolved every time.
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
So I sort of had an
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
idea but then, yeah. And I was driving back from Serena today on the passenger ride so I had lots of time to think about it and listen to songs over and over again and whittle it down.
Tave:
Yeah, it’s
Curly:
Excellent.
Tave:
tough.
Curly:
So you’re
Rossy:
Okay.
Curly:
wearing a cool PK shirt, the old Paul Kelly, who’s going to make the gravy. And I was just sharing off air that one of the security guards in the Chicago airport
Rossy:
you
Curly:
or Boston airport that we’re going through when he saw me wearing my who’s going to make the gravy, he’s got the old animated yank voice going, well, who is going to make the gravy? And it’s such a a classic little, he would never understand the intricacies around
Rossy:
No, no,
Curly:
that
Rossy:
no,
Curly:
particular
Rossy:
no.
Curly:
question. All right, Kat, I’m going to, actually, I’m sorry, Braggie, I almost missed out. It’s time for the Who Am I?
Tave:
Okay.
Rossy:
to go do that skiing, haven’t I?
Curly:
Yeah. Do
Tave:
What’s
Curly:
do
Tave:
the,
Curly:
do.
Tave:
oh yeah, yeah, someone, you need to write a little, little intro time for who am I? Okay.
Curly:
Yeah,
Tave:
Who
Rossy:
Okay.
Tave:
am I?
Curly:
with teeth
Tave:
I was,
Curly:
brass.
Tave:
I was born in Akron, Ohio, the daughter of a part-time
Curly:
Oh.
Tave:
secretary and a yellow pages manager. I graduated from Firestone high school in Akron, but stated that I was never too interested in high school. I mean, I never went to a dance. I never went out on a date. I never went steady. It became pretty awful for me, except of course, I could go see bands and that was the kick. I used to go to Cleveland just to see any band. So I was in love a lot of the time, but mostly with guys in bands that I had never met. I became interested in the hippie culture, Eastern mysticism and vegetarianism. While attending Kent State University’s art school for three years, I joined Sat Sun Matt. a band which included Mark Mothersboor, later of Devo. I was also caught up in the Kent State Massacre on May 4th, 1970, in which the boyfriend of one of my friends was among the four victims. That’s part one. Any ideas?
Curly:
Rossy’s looking like he’s got it
Tave:
How can you
Curly:
already.
Tave:
get that Rossi from there? You’re a freak if you get it from there.
Rossy:
Kent State, Kent State.
Tave:
Yeah.
Rossy:
I’m not sure that like,
Tave:
OK.
Rossy:
if you see that there’s a really interesting documentary about Devo’s experience at Kent State.
Tave:
No, I haven’t seen that, but I have
Rossy:
It’s
Tave:
seen,
Rossy:
really
Tave:
uh,
Rossy:
fascinating.
Tave:
someone else who went there, I think was, Oh no, I’m thinking of someone else. No, that’s different. That’s a different, there’s so many massacres
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
in America. It’s a different one. It’s
Rossy:
It’s
Tave:
not
Rossy:
had
Tave:
funny,
Rossy:
to keep
Tave:
but
Rossy:
up, I know,
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
it’s…
Tave:
yeah.
Rossy:
Oh… Yeah.
Tave:
Okay. So that’s good. Kat, any idea? Not
Curly:
Akron.
Tave:
allowed to say you just have to keep it to yourself. No,
Cat:
Not
Tave:
not
Cat:
yet,
Tave:
yet.
Cat:
not yet.
Tave:
Cool.
Curly:
And thank you for slipping in that at least it’s female. So
Tave:
Yeah, okay,
Curly:
the daughter
Tave:
you got that
Curly:
of.
Tave:
one.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Curly:
So at least I’m aware that it’s a female.
Tave:
Okay.
Curly:
All right, Kat, where am I starting? Which song of you do you want to talk about first?
Cat:
So I don’t play me by Cat Power. That is the one song that has been constant every time I’ve thought about it. It’s the first song that’s constant every time I’ve mulled it over what I would pick if I got up if
Tave:
Kat
Cat:
I was
Tave:
before,
Cat:
to do it.
Tave:
before we start, I always ask this question. What’s the first time when music actually meant something to you? Like how old were you when all of a sudden you went, Oh, that’s like music. I like it. You know, can you remember that? Like,
Cat:
I
Tave:
did
Cat:
remember
Tave:
you have
Cat:
going
Tave:
me?
Cat:
to a John Barnum concert when I was in primary school still, up in the Townsend Entertainment Centre, and the feeling of the bass and the music in my chest was pretty amazing. So I would say then,
Tave:
Okay,
Cat:
yeah,
Tave:
cool.
Cat:
John Barnum.
Tave:
Hey,
Curly:
John Farris.
Tave:
it’s no better.
Rossy:
I’m a Farnham fan, mate.
Tave:
Me too.
Rossy:
I’m a big Farnham fan. And I cop hammering over it. He’s
Curly:
Yeah, you
Rossy:
spectacular.
Curly:
Yeah
Cat:
The voice is unrivaled, there is nobody, and I don’t think there ever will be anyone that has vocal quality like he does.
Rossy:
You see him singing and he sings and he pulls the mic away and it’s getting louder and louder as he pulls it away.
Tave:
Ah,
Rossy:
He’s a freak.
Tave:
yeah.
Cat:
Yeah, the timber that he gets in there and the immersion. Yeah, yeah.
Rossy:
Hmm.
Tave:
Back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to
Rossy:
But cat power.
Cat:
Yeah, cat, cat.
Curly:
Mmm.
Tave:
back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back
Cat:
Well, so it came out in 2003 and I was 18 going on 19. And that was a huge year for me for musicals, live music. And I just remember hearing this song and it was the first song that wasn’t pretty, but it was beautiful. Like it just got full of minor chords and heartbreak that isn’t necessarily romance. And I just remember it flooring me. And every time I hear it, I go back to my bedroom, studying for uni, getting ready to go out. every time I hear this song. It was a big year for music. I saw in towns all the friends of Rom came, something for Kate came, Machine Gun Felatio came up here. I discovered Jamie Colum that year. I also have my favourite
Tave:
Oh,
Cat:
bands but that was the one song that just cuts through it all for that year, that era of my life.
Tave:
Jamie column
Curly:
Well, let’s
Tave:
now
Curly:
um
Tave:
there’s someone.
Cat:
Yeah.
Tave:
I love that guy.
Curly:
Well,
Cat:
I’d love
Curly:
let’s…
Cat:
to see him live. He’s on my top list of artists I haven’t seen that I must see.
Curly:
Okay, well let’s play a little snippet of Cat Power, I Don’t Blame You. Now, and in all honesty, I did not know this song. So I hope I’ve chosen a good version, but Cat, just so you know, we do edit the songs in later. So as in to make the editing a little bit more powerful, but here it is. Okay,
Tave:
That’s
Curly:
that’s
Tave:
pretty powerful.
Curly:
good. That’s beautiful.
Cat:
again.
Rossy:
Really is. And just quietly, that TV show that was from Jules Holland there, that clip, that is one of the best TV shows that you’ll ever see. They
Tave:
Yeah.
Rossy:
just have the best acts and the most intimate performances and that was fantastic.
Tave:
Yeah, yeah.
Cat:
When it came out, people were guessing what it was about, whether it was about Kurt Cobain, and she would never confirm what it was. She would
Tave:
Yep.
Cat:
say that it was about people thinking
Tave:
Okay.
Cat:
they’re understanding you and actually not understanding you. But then in 2012, she did finally confirm it was about Kurt Cobain. So it took her, what, nine years to let people, yeah,
Curly:
Wow.
Cat:
tell people what
Rossy:
Thank you.
Cat:
they wanted to about it, I suppose.
Tave:
Yeah. Sometimes that’s a good thing is you leave, leave people. Cause cause as soon as you say it’s about one person, you might alienate half the people, you know what I mean?
Cat:
Absolutely.
Tave:
Let them
Cat:
So I… Nirvana wasn’t really on my radar much. Of course I knew about them, but I didn’t listen to them religiously. So it would never have occurred to me that that’s what it was about,
Rossy:
Mm.
Cat:
that Kirk command. So it meant something different to me, but it makes perfect sense as well, I think it’s about
Curly:
Mm-hmm.
Cat:
Kirk.
Tave:
Yeah.
Rossy:
You can’t encode meaning into a text. What you hear is what you hear the way you want to hear it through your filters. And it doesn’t matter what they try and make it about. You interpret it the way you want it to be.
Cat:
Absolutely, everyone hears it through different ears.
Tave:
Correct,
Rossy:
That’s right.
Tave:
correct.
Curly:
Mmm.
Tave:
And that is a great show you said Rossy I love that show.
Rossy:
Yeah, it’s great performances on that
Tave:
Yeah,
Rossy:
the
Tave:
yeah.
Rossy:
spend time on YouTube looking at Jules Holland. You’ll get some gold
Tave:
Yeah, yeah, 100%. Curly, what’d you think?
Curly:
I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry.
Tave:
Mm-hmm.
Curly:
I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Well, there’s an intensity about it as well. So yeah, as I said, I hadn’t heard the song, last week Sam was talking about his lack of musical nous, but I think you guys are used to that with me. So,
Rossy:
It
Curly:
but
Rossy:
was
Curly:
yeah,
Rossy:
spellbinding.
Curly:
it was, that’s yeah.
Tave:
Yeah,
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
good vocal performance.
Cat:
The audio version has some harmonies in there as well and it’s just so bulging.
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
Not much, it’s not quite stripped back but it’s just a few added harmonies.
Curly:
Excellent. Excellent. Well, let’s move on to number two cat. Great start.
Tave:
Yeah, good start.
Cat:
So number two for me is America by Simon and Garfunkel. This is a kind of a full circle song for me. My, I didn’t really have a musical family. My brothers were eight and 10 years older than me. One listened to Metallica, Guns N’ Roses, ACDC. The other was George Strait, Chris Lidoo, Garth Brooks. And
Tave:
Wow!
Cat:
mom was listening to, yeah. My mother’s Simon and Garth uncle, Otis Redding. And she’d play these songs while doing housework and chores. And as a kid, I hated them. It made my skin cold.
Curly:
I’m going to go to bed.
Cat:
And then as I grew older and was an adult, we’d do road trips together and the same songs would come on and I started to really, really love all of them and particularly Simon and Garfunkel and this song in particular,
Tave:
I feel
Cat:
I
Tave:
like
Cat:
just
Tave:
it reflects
Cat:
really
Tave:
on
Cat:
love.
Tave:
your relationship
Cat:
So I feel like it
Tave:
with
Cat:
reflects
Tave:
your
Cat:
on your relationship with your mom as
Tave:
mum
Cat:
well,
Tave:
as
Cat:
you know?
Tave:
well,
Cat:
It’s like
Tave:
you
Cat:
they’re just doing things to bother
Rossy:
Thanks
Cat:
you
Rossy:
for
Cat:
and then
Rossy:
coming.
Cat:
all of a sudden
Rossy:
You are all
Cat:
as you
Rossy:
of a
Cat:
grow
Rossy:
sudden
Cat:
a
Tave:
know?
Cat:
bit older,
Rossy:
a little
Tave:
Like
Cat:
you
Rossy:
bit older.
Tave:
they’re
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
understand them a bit more, I think.
Tave:
just doing
Rossy:
Did those
Tave:
things
Rossy:
songs make you
Tave:
to
Rossy:
think you’re being dragged
Tave:
bother
Rossy:
in to help with the housework?
Tave:
you
Cat:
Yeah, 100%.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
Oh,
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
and then
Cat:
yeah.
Tave:
all of a sudden,
Cat:
I
Tave:
like,
Cat:
wanted
Tave:
you’re up
Cat:
to
Tave:
at all
Cat:
help
Tave:
day
Cat:
after
Tave:
and
Cat:
myself.
Tave:
you’re like, I’m just being really polite
Curly:
Ahahaha!
Rossy:
Oh
Tave:
and… Did those songs
Rossy:
no!
Tave:
make you think you were being great and you
Rossy:
The
Tave:
were
Rossy:
odour
Tave:
over the
Rossy:
shredding’s
Tave:
top? Yeah, I’m just
Rossy:
on!
Tave:
saying.
Rossy:
Quick,
Tave:
Yeah. Yeah. I’m just saying.
Rossy:
hide
Tave:
I’m just
Rossy:
the
Tave:
saying.
Rossy:
vacuum
Tave:
I’m just saying.
Rossy:
cleaner!
Tave:
I’m just saying. I’m just saying. I’m just saying. I’m just saying. I’m just saying. I’m just saying.
Cat:
Yeah!
Tave:
Ah, that’s cold.
Cat:
Royal Bisson crying. I’m crying, yes.
Rossy:
I’m sorry.
Cat:
Yeah, yeah,
Tave:
I’m
Cat:
I don’t know the lyrics
Tave:
gonna
Cat:
of this. I, sorry.
Tave:
say, isn’t that funny how when you’re young, the songs get pumped into you and you think, oh God, and then when you get a bit older, you hear them again, you go, oh, yeah, it’s such a, like, Ruby has that with someone gave us, we had a big long trip to Adelaide, it was in the car. And someone gave me Dixie Chicks. CD
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
and we just pump that all the way and and Ruby
Rossy:
All I can say.
Tave:
Ruby says to me now, why do I love the Dixie six dick chicks so much dad? People always like because she’s
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
into hip hop. Why do I like that? Well,
Rossy:
All
Tave:
you’re
Rossy:
I can
Tave:
brainwashed.
Rossy:
say is that the money Angus is going to spend on therapy will be well worth it.
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
That’s
Curly:
Alright,
Tave:
good.
Curly:
so once
Rossy:
Ehh…
Curly:
again, I’ve never been a huge Simon and Garfunkel fan, so
Rossy:
Vocals man songs
Tave:
Harmony!
Rossy:
and vocals.
Curly:
this will
Rossy:
Oh Yeah
Curly:
be another newie for me. Okay.
Tave:
You know, it takes a certain talent to write a song just about a single trip somewhere with someone. Do you know what I mean? And all the literal things that happen all on the way and make them so beautiful. You can just picture
Cat:
But it’s
Tave:
that, can’t
Cat:
fluid,
Tave:
you?
Cat:
some of it are so whimsical, but it’s quite a melancholy sound. So I love that juxtaposition, you know. And I just want to point out Mr. Wagner Pies, is that their version of a servo pie?
Rossy:
Ah!
Tave:
Ah,
Curly:
Maybe,
Tave:
maybe it
Curly:
yeah.
Tave:
is!
Rossy:
Ah! that Paul Simon is just such a phenomenal talent. Like, it’s just hard to imagine that, like his songwriting and just like that album, that first album, that first big album, which was Bridge Over Troubled Water, if I remember listening to that as a very young man, young child, like it’s just brilliant. It is beyond brilliant as a benchmark. They started in high school, they’re called Tom and Jerry.
Tave:
That’s right.
Cat:
Uh… Yeah.
Rossy:
Eh, freakishly good, freakishly talented.
Tave:
Incredible
Cat:
and Paul Simon’s
Tave:
songwriter.
Cat:
got the stuff.
Rossy:
Oh yeah, I don’t think they get on very well though.
Tave:
No.
Cat:
Get that gist, yeah, I’ve heard those things.
Rossy:
Hehehehe
Curly:
Yeah, and just the stage presence, like the falling in the arms and
Rossy:
Oh.
Curly:
yeah, it was, it’s, yeah.
Cat:
Definitely a studio studio band.
Rossy:
Eh…
Tave:
But isn’t interesting that
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
song was like a it’s like, you know, traveling on a bus with your girlfriend or whatever, whoever it is your companion. And then you know, like,
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
later on, he he makes it the big album. And then there’s that song. I’m going to Graceland, which is the same sort of thing on a bus
Rossy:
Eh.
Tave:
a guy with his son, go
Rossy:
Eh.
Tave:
go into Memphis to see to Graceland, you know, it’s just,
Curly:
Hmm.
Tave:
yeah.
Rossy:
You forget how big a star and how much of an impact Paul Simon’s work had on America. For a period of time, he was just ubiquitous. You couldn’t turn on the TV without him being there. He’s so famous.
Cat:
I know the
Tave:
Yeah.
Cat:
ice lines, right? And he’s like, the
Tave:
Oh yeah.
Rossy:
That
Cat:
ice
Rossy:
whole
Cat:
lines
Rossy:
stuff.
Cat:
are the most…
Tave:
Some of those, some of those songs are like they’re up there with Beatles songs, they’re that well written, you know, Billy
Rossy:
Well,
Tave:
Joel,
Curly:
Hmm.
Tave:
that
Rossy:
yeah.
Tave:
sort of style.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
You know,
Cat:
Yeah. Graves.
Tave:
genius.
Curly:
Excellent.
Cat:
Yeah.
Tave:
Good choice. Good number two.
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
Good one.
Curly:
So what’s number three, Kat?
Cat:
Number three is a Paul Kelly song. Now I could have had all five of my songs be Paul Kelly,
Tave:
Ha!
Cat:
but
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
for variety I thought it was. But yeah, so almost we eat in the middle of the year. So this is the song that when I heard live for the first time took me from just being a, yeah, I like Paul Kelly to just being pretty much obsessed. It was a 2009 Sound Relief at the MCG and right at the front it was packed. It was the middle of the day
Tave:
Yeah.
Cat:
Kings of Leon was on just before him. After him was going to be Augie March and Bliss and Esso. So that’s the kind of crowd that was there. He sang songs and this was the last song and he did it acapella. Daylight,
Tave:
They like, would
Cat:
you
Tave:
not
Cat:
could not hear a pin drop in that
Tave:
be
Cat:
crowd. It was the most amazing and profound live
Tave:
a thing if
Cat:
music
Tave:
they
Cat:
experience
Tave:
were
Cat:
I’ve
Tave:
not a craft. It is the
Cat:
ever
Tave:
most amazing,
Cat:
had.
Tave:
the most fabulous
Cat:
We were just thinking about it and this, so this
Tave:
thing ever. Who such a thing is that? Is it sex, loving,
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
loving, or quality? Don’t you know it? Ha ha ha ha! Uh, okay. And you’re a huge…
Rossy:
Thanks for watching!
Cat:
I don’t know if you can imagine that, the MCG crowded, like the whole field was full of people, the stands were full. It was just, yeah,
Tave:
Yeah,
Cat:
spine tingling. Very good.
Tave:
poor Kelly.
Cat:
Yeah, that was, that set was like his perfect set, I think. It was, he just needed to add careless in there, and I reckon that would be his perfect live set.
Curly:
How Paul Kelly has changed and watching that and you know I’ve seen Paul do that live at River Stage here in Brisbane and you can’t help but think about his very first musical stuff that he put out like Billy Baxter Rossi and just how he’s evolved and how he’s shifted and how he’s changed. can capture large audiences just singing predominantly by himself. It’s amazing.
Cat:
I think with
Tave:
I think
Cat:
his
Tave:
with
Cat:
songwriting,
Tave:
his songwriting,
Cat:
he’s
Tave:
he’s
Cat:
relatable
Tave:
relatable
Cat:
through
Tave:
through
Cat:
being ambiguous.
Tave:
being ambiguous.
Cat:
I think
Tave:
I mean,
Cat:
like there’s
Tave:
like,
Cat:
so
Tave:
there’s
Cat:
many
Tave:
so
Cat:
songs,
Tave:
many
Cat:
you
Tave:
songs,
Cat:
don’t know
Tave:
you don’t
Cat:
exactly
Tave:
know exactly
Cat:
what he’s
Tave:
what
Cat:
talking
Tave:
he’s talking
Cat:
about,
Tave:
about,
Cat:
but you
Tave:
but
Cat:
know
Tave:
you
Cat:
exactly
Tave:
know exactly
Cat:
what he’s
Tave:
what
Cat:
talking
Tave:
he’s talking
Cat:
about.
Tave:
about.
Cat:
And so many songs. And that, yeah, I love that skill that
Tave:
But
Cat:
he has. So yeah, just doesn’t
Tave:
he
Cat:
spell
Tave:
has, so
Cat:
it
Tave:
just
Cat:
out,
Tave:
fill it
Cat:
but
Tave:
out,
Cat:
you know
Tave:
but you
Cat:
what’s
Tave:
know
Cat:
going
Tave:
what
Cat:
on.
Tave:
you’re gonna do. He,
Rossy:
So
Tave:
he.
Rossy:
the semi-autobiographical elements of songs like To Her Door and stuff like that, you know, like it’s interesting.
Curly:
Hmm.
Rossy:
It’s not always literal.
Cat:
They thought I was asleep, I find quite moving for that as well. You don’t know quite what’s going on, but you know, it’s tugs
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
at the heartstrings regardless.
Tave:
He uses
Curly:
I am,
Tave:
a lot of
Curly:
I still rem-
Tave:
religious iconography in a lot of his songs
Curly:
Mmm.
Tave:
as well. It takes a lot of verses from different
Cat:
Yeah,
Tave:
parts
Cat:
well
Tave:
of
Cat:
that’s
Tave:
the
Cat:
how it is.
Tave:
of
Cat:
All
Tave:
the Bible.
Cat:
right.
Tave:
I don’t think he’s religious, but that’s a great place to
Cat:
He was
Tave:
mine
Cat:
raised by a
Tave:
for
Cat:
Muslim,
Tave:
lyrics.
Cat:
wasn’t he? Wasn’t he one
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
of his sisters? Sorry,
Rossy:
Finally…
Cat:
isn’t he? Wasn’t
Rossy:
Cut.
Cat:
he? Wasn’t he? Wasn’t he? Wasn’t he? Wasn’t he?
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
Wasn’t
Curly:
Oh
Rossy:
Yes sir.
Cat:
he? Wasn’t he? Wasn’t he?
Tave:
Maybe,
Curly:
yeah.
Tave:
maybe.
Curly:
Oh yeah. All right.
Rossy:
Kelly sounds Irish Catholic to me. He
Curly:
Yeah,
Rossy:
may well be.
Tave:
Yes.
Curly:
he is. I think he’s fascinated by the Bible because he’s read it in depth and he’s,
Tave:
Yeah.
Curly:
as he has with many other religions around the world, I think he’s fascinated, but he’s also the actual literature around that time is what keeps drawing him in as well. So. Yeah.
Tave:
He’s a storyteller and you know, there’s no better stories than the ones that come from from in the Bible. So it’s amazing.
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
So.
Curly:
Yeah,
Cat:
And then
Curly:
I.
Cat:
he takes these sonnets to music as well, you know, he’s got a whole album of those.
Curly:
Yeah,
Tave:
Mm.
Curly:
I’ve shared, you know, in the early days when Paul got rid of the Billy Baxter and the Paul Kelly and the Dots and moved into and release Post, which is his very first like acoustic album. And he played at the refectory there at Queensland Uni. And once again, just an amazing gig. And I think I shared with you when he came out with Paul Kelly and the Colour Girls. of a gig at the Tube Club here in Brisbane where the first set was the Colour Girls, the second set was just him. And we
Rossy:
Mm.
Curly:
all just sat down on this sticky, putrid carpet floor and just, it was just magical. And then he finished, of course, with the Colour Girls. But I still remember the excitement my mate, Sack had when, before too long, started… was getting some airplay and it was almost like we were just so excited because of the magic that Paul Kelly had already presented to us and then to have his music listened to by more people as he started to build that repertoire that he’s had.
Rossy:
It’s funny, you go to places like the Byron Bay Piggery on a Wednesday night, apparently, and they just come out of the woodwork. That’d be a place that you’d either get 30 people or 1500, and he’d get like 2000 there almost,
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
you know?
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
And he just had that effect on some people in that way.
Cat:
It’s not scary, like careless, which is one of my favorites, is that the feature voice vibe. And then, yeah, it’s just full gamut of
Curly:
Yeah.
Cat:
inspiration from everywhere, I love it.
Tave:
Yeah.
Curly:
Excellent.
Cat:
Yeah.
Curly:
Well, we’ll take a break now for Braggie. Let’s do,
Tave:
Part
Curly:
who
Rossy:
Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
Curly:
am
Tave:
two.
Curly:
I with Steve Bragg?
Tave:
Someone needs to write that.
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
Okay,
Rossy:
I’m gonna
Tave:
part
Rossy:
do it,
Tave:
two.
Rossy:
don’t worry, I’ll do it.
Tave:
Okay, we’ve moved, we’ve moved, we’ve, remember if you remember, if you recall from part one, we’re at Kent
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
State. Yeah, in May, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Curly:
Akron.
Tave:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Rossy:
Previously
Tave:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Rossy:
on Who
Tave:
ha
Rossy:
Am I?
Tave:
ha ha ha ha ha
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha but left after eight months. It was then that I met rock journalist, Nick Kent and landed a position at the music magazine, New Musical Express, writing what was subsequently described as half-baked philosophical drivel and nonsensical tirades. This proved not to last. And I took a job at Malcolm McLaren and Vivian Westwood’s clothing store, Sex.
Rossy:
6.
Tave:
I attempted to start a band in France called The Frenchies. before returning to Cleveland in 1975 to join rhythm and blues group, Jack Rabbit. I returned to London in 1976 in the midst of the early punk movement. Get this is the best part. At one point, I tried to convince Steve Jones and then Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols to marry me in order to get a work permit. Johnny offered to go to the registry office with me and do the unmentionable. But when he subsequently withdrew, Sid volunteered to take his place. Upon arrival at the registry office the following morning, we found it closed for an extended holiday and were unable to attend the following day due to Sid making a court appearance.
Rossy:
Ha ha ha ha.
Tave:
In late 1976, I responded to an advertisement in Melody Maker for band members and attended an audition for the band 999. John Moss, who would later be in Culture Club, and Tony James of Generation X also auditioned. Later… I tried to start a group with Mick Jones from the Clash. None of these attempts to join or start a band came to fruition and I began to lose hope. Rossi’s got it. Curly cat.
Rossy:
Eh.
Tave:
Any ideas?
Cat:
I have an idea but I might be out in the aid press I think.
Tave:
Okay.
Curly:
Um, I’m, I’m.
Rossy:
I do have some, I have some homework for you after this.
Tave:
For me.
Curly:
Hahaha.
Rossy:
to everyone.
Tave:
Okay.
Curly:
Okay. Okay. Okay. I thought it was someone I did a quick search and it’s certainly not that particular
Tave:
You’re not allowed
Curly:
person.
Tave:
to use the internet.
Cat:
There it goes.
Tave:
That’s cheating,
Curly:
So,
Tave:
Gur- Curly.
Curly:
I was just confirming that I was wrong. So in that
Tave:
Oh
Curly:
case, that’s okay. All right, Kat,
Cat:
Alright,
Curly:
song number four.
Cat:
yeah so stepping up the beat a little bit. Sleep by Ellen Stone.
Tave:
Yeah,
Cat:
I
Tave:
tell us about this
Cat:
discovered
Tave:
one.
Cat:
this in 2014 Bluesfest. So this was back when you had to book your tickets 12 months beforehand, you didn’t know who was playing. And a bunch of friends booked it for my 30th. And as the lineup was announced it was just like it was 100% meant to be And then there’s a bunch of bands that I didn’t know, including Alan Stone. And he was the highlight for me of the entire Five Days Festival. Coming out of one of his gigs was like, I imagine coming out of one of those soul churches, you just felt renewed and full of life. And yeah, it was, and I cannot hear this song now being taken back there and just instantly happy. It was amazing. It was a spiritual experience, definitely.
Rossy:
Bye.
Tave:
Awesome.
Curly:
Mmm.
Tave:
Two minutes thirty-four. It’s a little
Rossy:
Eh,
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
short.
Rossy:
that’s what I like to see.
Cat:
Yeah, he was in one of the smaller tents at the festival and he made everybody put their phones away. It was, and it was just sort of at the beginning of the, you know, it wasn’t quite as political as it was, as it is now. But yeah, it wouldn’t go on until everyone put their phones away and was just in the moment. And it was, boy
Tave:
You
Cat:
what
Tave:
know,
Cat:
a moment.
Tave:
it’s a rare thing these days to discover someone new live, not having listened to them before. That’s a special thing. It’s
Cat:
Yeah.
Tave:
really cool.
Cat:
Yeah.
Rossy:
The only thing through me is watching the lead singer pack in the van. Yeah, like that happens.
Curly:
Hahaha!
Tave:
He
Rossy:
Huh!
Tave:
puts his mic in, he puts
Curly:
Hahaha!
Tave:
his mic in.
Rossy:
Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure he does.
Curly:
Oh, classic.
Tave:
Oh, you’re the best, Rossy.
Rossy:
I’m sorry.
Curly:
You are. We love
Tave:
Just
Curly:
you.
Tave:
bring everybody down to earth.
Curly:
But I can certainly understand why that would have grabbed you. That was upbeat.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
And
Curly:
That’s
Cat:
the whole
Curly:
pretty
Cat:
festival,
Rossy:
Gospely,
Curly:
cool.
Cat:
yeah,
Rossy:
gospely.
Cat:
absolutely. And it was the first festival in years that hadn’t rained when we were camping. So
Tave:
Oh yeah.
Cat:
it could not have been
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
perfect the whole weekend if it were tried. Like it was, you know, I got to hear Copperhead Road live. I got to hear Doobie Brothers
Rossy:
Steve
Cat:
live.
Rossy:
Earl.
Cat:
Yep.
Rossy:
Steve Earl and the Doobies. Yeah,
Cat:
Matthew’s
Rossy:
great.
Tave:
Oh, you don’t
Cat:
band, I got to hear Eddie
Tave:
don’t
Cat:
Tunstall.
Tave:
you
Rossy:
Well, vintage trouble on that bill too.
Cat:
Sorry.
Rossy:
With vintage trouble on that bill.
Cat:
I’m not sure. That doesn’t ring a bell, but… One mayor was on the bill. War was on the bill. Yeah.
Rossy:
Yeah,
Cat:
It was
Rossy:
it’s
Tave:
Yeah, I
Rossy:
good.
Cat:
Casey
Tave:
know you
Cat:
Fungling.
Tave:
get to tick off so many at that at the Blues Fest, don’t you? You get to tick off so many bucket things. It’s
Cat:
Yeah,
Tave:
just.
Cat:
amazing. And things you didn’t even know were on your bucket list. Sorry.
Rossy:
We knew Peter Noble who puts that together, we knew him back in Sydney, because he’s originally from Sydney and he used to always bring canned heat out.
Tave:
Right.
Rossy:
Canned heat were his thing. That’s where he made his big money in the early days. Canned heat to us. It
Tave:
Wow.
Rossy:
was fantastic too, man. Fantastic.
Tave:
That’s
Cat:
There was
Tave:
awesome
Cat:
a guy that played at a festival called Foy Vant, who we’d never heard of before. And since then, he’s one of my favorite artists. My favorite thing about him, though, is he did not do an encore. Five Day Festival,
Tave:
Oh.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
so many of the forced encores, like, no, they’re
Rossy:
Don’t
Cat:
gonna
Rossy:
do
Cat:
do
Rossy:
it.
Cat:
it, it’s a pet peeve of mine, like, encore means again, not to the end. So he just
Rossy:
Eh.
Cat:
played it offstage and it was actually so refreshing.
Rossy:
I like that.
Curly:
Hahaha.
Rossy:
I do. I agree with you entirely. I
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
agree entirely.
Cat:
But it’s so red summer, it’s like the adult version of peekaboo.
Rossy:
I like, yeah, he’s behind you.
Cat:
Thank you.
Rossy:
I like a 30 or 40 minute set these days. I’m really enjoying that a lot more. Like, yeah,
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
leave them one more. It’s like the Beatles used to only do 20, 25.
Tave:
You can get 10
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
songs into that.
Cat:
That’s the
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
first
Tave:
Pocket
Cat:
one.
Tave:
watcher get 10 songs into that. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Rossy:
14 actually.
Tave:
Oh,
Rossy:
Thanks for watching!
Tave:
that’s funny.
Curly:
Excellent. All right, Kat, we’ve got the final song and surprised me.
Cat:
So my final song is Metallica and to Sam and Ann.
Tave:
Woo!
Cat:
So I have always loved Metallica. I’d like to be my eldest brother’s influence, I’m not sure. But my partner, my husband, he is a heavy metal man. Heavy metal or dance or electronic music. They’re his two genres, which is… I don’t… that’s not my jam, the electronic music thing. So I… car trips.
Tave:
Patrick,
Cat:
We
Tave:
we did
Cat:
do
Tave:
a lot
Cat:
lots
Tave:
of storage
Cat:
of road
Tave:
together,
Cat:
trips together.
Tave:
and they have a
Cat:
And
Tave:
thing
Cat:
they are
Tave:
for
Cat:
my favourite
Tave:
sort
Cat:
things
Tave:
of
Cat:
to do. Me and
Tave:
being
Cat:
him in
Tave:
human
Cat:
a car
Tave:
part,
Cat:
on the road. And this
Tave:
and
Cat:
song
Tave:
this song
Cat:
comes
Tave:
comes
Cat:
on…
Tave:
along, it’s just full
Cat:
and
Tave:
volume,
Cat:
it’s just
Tave:
it
Cat:
full
Tave:
goes
Cat:
volume,
Tave:
down and
Cat:
windows down,
Rossy:
Ha ha.
Tave:
it’s…
Cat:
it’s… Yeah, it’s one
Tave:
Yeah.
Cat:
of
Tave:
..what
Cat:
my favourite things, it’s
Tave:
they
Cat:
cathartic,
Tave:
were really
Cat:
it’s…
Tave:
into.
Cat:
The intro is just… Yeah, iconic. Yeah, it’s…
Tave:
All time classic.
Cat:
Yeah, we were meant to go to Hardwired, the concert, you know, and all touring out here and then it wasn’t happening, so we’re still waiting for that. Don’t think they’ll come back. Um. you
Curly:
Oh wow, I could listen to that all night.
Tave:
You know what
Cat:
Yeah.
Tave:
I tell you, let me tell you that’s that song has got everything, every little trick in the book. Like just the intro, the build, you think it’s going to come in, but no, they’re just taking a little bit further than they come in. And then before it cut, they got the little pre-chorus where it goes to a halftime beat Rossi goes to a halftime beat
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
and then it’s back into the four, four, then it’s got the stop curly. Remember we used to talk about the stop and the anticipation. That’s why
Curly:
The drop.
Tave:
human
Rossy:
Yeah.
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
Humans love the drop because you can predict the future. You know, it’s going to come back in. And then it’s got a
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
frickin
Rossy:
Eh.
Tave:
face melting lead break that goes through the verse and the chorus. And then it goes to talking like the people, like even those,
Rossy:
See you next time.
Tave:
yeah, but it, but that, that in songs, like even Elvis and those old cheesy love songs, he’d talk to things, you know, I love you darling. You know, he’d go to the talking bit.
Curly:
Hahaha.
Tave:
It’s got everything. It’s genius.
Rossy:
I never rated that band. I never rated that band. And somehow I ended up being a PA ringer for them. I was actually
Tave:
Oh
Rossy:
rigging
Tave:
really?
Rossy:
back line for them on that tour, right, in Sydney. And we built it like there was just semi-trailer after semi-trailer coming in with containers. We built it at the Snake Pit. They had this thing in the middle. And so I sat and watched the show sitting behind Lars. And in the
Tave:
Oh.
Rossy:
entertainment center in Sydney had this metal door and it’s like 30 feet high. And during that, some pyros and explosions went off and I was blown off a road case. Boom bang and the door went whoop whoop and I was blown off this road case. And and I watched him and I got him that night. I got them. It was the most testosterone, male rock driven thing I’ve ever seen, but I really saw what everyone else saw in them. I just went, oh, I was wrong. They were spectacularly brutal, hard, fast. I’ve seen them a number of times since, but those those times I saw them in Sydney, What’s that? Wow. Yeah.
Tave:
That’s a great story.
Cat:
They’re very dramatic. I think it ties into my theatre background as well. Like it’s…theatr…
Rossy:
Good.
Tave:
Yes,
Cat:
Everything
Tave:
good point.
Cat:
about that is the drama, you know? It’s…yeah, it’s great.
Tave:
Yeah.
Cat:
I saw the big day out. They closed big day out in 2004 that I went to. That’s the only time I’ve
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
seen them, because they failed on us. Um, but yeah. Love
Rossy:
It’s a Barbara.
Cat:
them. The album that came out in 2016, Hardwired to Self-Destruct, I reckon that was back to some of that real hard Master of Cluckets sort of stuff as well. Such a good album.
Rossy:
I like some of that later stuff. Like people hate St. Anger, but I actually like it. People complain about the big snare drum sound in it. I don’t care, it was an angry album. And if you tie it in with that therapy session in some kind of monster, it makes sense,
Curly:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
Rossy:
which is a great film, great film. But like, yeah, I kind of dig that. I dig that, I get what they, like yeah. And like my view about it, people go, oh, Metallica sold out, but like they were in a bus and the bus… flipped over and landed on their bass player and killed him.
Curly:
Mmm.
Rossy:
And they were there and they saw that. Those guys deserve all the luck in the world
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
after that. They
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
paid their dues 30 times over. Those road stories and that band, like Cliff Burton, he’s legendary. Everyone just talks about how he was like their leading light. They lost him like that.
Curly:
Yeah.
Rossy:
That has kept going in a brutal sense, much like ACDC with Back in Black and Bob Rock produced both records.
Tave:
Whew! It’s
Rossy:
There you go.
Tave:
all coming together.
Curly:
It’s a song that you just cannot fail to get up for, isn’t it?
Tave:
Yeah.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Cat:
The knowledge is amazing.
Rossy:
Yeah, it is. It’s just got the whole package.
Curly:
Well, Cat, that’s your five songs. And what I normally do now is to pass it over to Braggie to do a quick summary of how he
Tave:
Well, you know,
Curly:
perceives the night.
Tave:
yep, I knew you were going to do that. You’ve gone about it a different way. I feel like almost with the exception of one song, I think you’ve kind of gone for life. Most, most of the ones you talk
Rossy:
Huh.
Tave:
about seeing these people live, which no one’s really done before people are going in chronological order or someone did just songs that remind them of people that they loved or whatever. So it’s an
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
interesting take on it. And that’s what I love about this thing. And I, and we should do it more if we can. It’s just, uh, everyone’s got a different take on what five songs mean to them. But
Curly:
Yeah.
Tave:
yeah, well done. And you built this too. You built us to the, to the, you know, you started from quiet.
Curly:
to the crescendo, right?
Tave:
Yeah.
Curly:
And
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
It was like, it
Curly:
that’s that
Tave:
was like
Curly:
musical
Tave:
a set.
Curly:
theater background coming in,
Tave:
That’s
Curly:
wasn’t
Tave:
what it
Curly:
it?
Tave:
is.
Curly:
So.
Rossy:
You took me by surprise, got me by surprise. Well done.
Curly:
All
Cat:
So
Curly:
right.
Cat:
the first CDs I ever got was Freak Show and the same birthday Brand New Man by Books and Duck. Like that’s pretty, always had a pretty diverse taste in music.
Rossy:
Freak shows on high rotation around here still.
Curly:
Hahaha
Tave:
Brooks are
Cat:
I
Tave:
done.
Cat:
saw it in my head, so I couldn’t do it. Yeah.
Tave:
Brooks are done baby,
Curly:
That seems enjoyable.
Tave:
boot scootin’. That’s what I meant, that’s where I’m at.
Rossy:
I like a better country.
Cat:
Yeah.
Curly:
Yeah,
Tave:
I love it.
Curly:
don’t
Tave:
I
Curly:
we
Tave:
love
Curly:
all?
Tave:
it.
Curly:
Braggie part three the final part of the who am
Tave:
So
Curly:
I?
Tave:
this person had lost hope because they’re attempts to try, you know, previously on who am I? Okay, then in 1978, I made a demo tape and gave it to Dave Hill, owner of the label Real Records. He’ll advise me to take my time, get a band together. In the spring of 1978, I met bass guitarist Pete Farnedon. and we selected a band consisting of James Honeymoon Scott on guitar, vocals, keyboards, and Martin Chambers on drums, vocals, percussion. The name of the band was inspired by a Sam Cooke version of an old song by The Platters. We recorded a demo tape, handed it to my friend Nick Lowe, who produced a single. We performed our first gig at a club in Paris. The single was released in 79 and hit number 33 in the UK charts. A second single followed with similar success, then… In July 79, a third single hit UK number one on January, 1990. The same date as our self-titled first album was released. Both went to worldwide
Rossy:
Kaching.
Tave:
success. Still writing and recording today. I have been an inspiration for women in rock for over 40 years. In a 1994 interview, Madonna recalled, I saw her play in Central Park in 1980. She was amazing. The only woman I’d seen in performance where I thought, yeah. She’s got balls. It gave me courage, inspiration to see a woman with that kind of confidence in a man’s world. Best known for hits, Brass in Pocket, Back on the Chain Gang, Don’t Get Me Wrong, and many, many others, my name is…
Cat:
Can you see?
Rossy:
I guess
Tave:
Chrissy.
Rossy:
Chrissy Hyne. Yeah.
Tave:
Yes.
Curly:
Oh man,
Rossy:
Now,
Curly:
that was a journey.
Rossy:
now if you had of watched the TV, the Disney TV series Pistol, which is a six part
Curly:
Hehehehe.
Rossy:
series
Curly:
Hehehehe.
Rossy:
about the sex
Curly:
Hehehehe.
Rossy:
pistols, you’d know all of this.
Tave:
Okay.
Curly:
Hehehehe.
Rossy:
It’s fantastic series. A Disney story, the Disney story of the sex pistols. Chrissy Hyne’s all through it.
Tave:
She
Curly:
How
Tave:
knew
Cat:
Thank
Tave:
every…
Curly:
do
Cat:
you.
Curly:
you find time to
Tave:
She
Curly:
watch all these
Tave:
knew
Curly:
docu-
Tave:
everybody
Curly:
tacos?
Tave:
in that punk scene. She knew everybody in that whole
Rossy:
She
Tave:
punk
Rossy:
did,
Tave:
scene.
Rossy:
absolutely. She was the real deal.
Tave:
Yep.
Rossy:
She was the real deal. And the drummer was in the Australian band, the Bushwhackers for a while, you know.
Tave:
I didn’t
Curly:
Ah,
Tave:
know that. You’ve always got one.
Rossy:
Yeah, yeah, he was.
Tave:
Wow.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
Did
Curly:
all this…
Tave:
she marry the drummer?
Rossy:
No,
Tave:
And
Rossy:
I
Tave:
she
Rossy:
don’t
Tave:
ended
Rossy:
know
Tave:
up
Rossy:
she
Tave:
marrying
Rossy:
did.
Tave:
the drummer.
Curly:
What’s
Tave:
She
Curly:
the
Tave:
went.
Curly:
net?
Tave:
I know she went out
Rossy:
Didn’t
Tave:
with.
Rossy:
she marry Ray Davies?
Tave:
No, she went out with.
Rossy:
Didn’t she marry one of the Davies boys?
Tave:
No, she was she was going with the guy from. Don’t you.
Rossy:
Jim Kerr?
Tave:
Yeah, Jim Kerr.
Rossy:
Yeah, Jim Kerr. That’s what it was because,
Tave:
Mm.
Rossy:
yeah, yeah, that’s right. Because, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Tave:
But I’m pretty sure she’s married
Rossy:
that’s another
Tave:
to the drummer
Rossy:
story.
Tave:
now. Well, whatever the drummer is now.
Rossy:
Yeah,
Tave:
She’s still doing
Rossy:
she’s
Tave:
it, eh?
Rossy:
yeah, I know. I know that brass in pocket is a very sassy rock song. Yeah.
Tave:
Oh, that was great. I love it all.
Rossy:
Yeah.
Tave:
I love it all.
Curly:
Excellent. Well, I’m going to start the the wind down. So Kat, final words, have you enjoyed yourself?
Cat:
That was great. Thank you very much for having me. It’s lovely to, it’s hard to get on paper
Tave:
paper
Cat:
and get that down list down to five.
Tave:
and
Curly:
Hehehehehehehehe
Tave:
get that down this way. Yeah, awesome. Awesome work. And thanks
Rossy:
You
Tave:
again.
Rossy:
did a great job.
Tave:
Thanks again
Rossy:
Great job.
Tave:
for helping us out. It’s been yeah, it’s really cool.
Cat:
and
Curly:
Very
Cat:
very soft.
Curly:
much so, very much so. Now Kat made mention during the show of the Servo Pie. So please don’t forget about the community song that we’re trying to put together, all about the joys and the delicacies that we know as the Servo Pie. So, what
Tave:
Still waiting for a riff
Curly:
details?
Tave:
Rossy.
Curly:
Yes.
Rossy:
I know,
Tave:
Need a riff Rossy. I know, I know,
Rossy:
I’ve
Tave:
mate.
Rossy:
been
Tave:
You’re busy. I
Rossy:
under
Tave:
know.
Rossy:
the pump, young.
Tave:
Oh
Rossy:
We’ll
Curly:
And
Rossy:
get there, we will get there.
Curly:
Kat has supplied lyrics to that community song and also a bit of a story. So, you know, and I think Kat, is this your line where you talked about burning the roof of your mouth but warming your soul? Was
Cat:
Yes.
Curly:
that? Yeah.
Rossy:
Oh, nice work.
Tave:
Yes,
Curly:
Yeah,
Tave:
that’s gotta be
Curly:
that’s
Cat:
I’m going to go ahead and close the video.
Tave:
in there.
Rossy:
That’s
Curly:
beautiful.
Rossy:
work.
Curly:
That’s what we’re looking
Rossy:
Yeah.
Curly:
for. So. Next week, we hope to have Sean Fraser from the Ritzy Kids if he recovers from COVID. So if you’ve enjoyed this episode, please like, review, subscribe, wherever you’re listening to it. Please share it with people you think might get a bit of a kick out of it as well. Of course, we’ve got our YouTube channel. We’re on Facebook. We’re on TikTok. We’ve got a website, UnfilteredUndiscovered.com. The five songs that Kat chose tonight will be… added to our Spotify playlist, which is now like 220 songs long. Um, and of course, my lyrics from the playlist tonight are from Jimmy and the boys. We are the players in the game that no one ever
Rossy:
ever
Curly:
wins.
Rossy:
wins.
Curly:
Thank you so much, Kat, for joining us tonight.
Tave:
Thanks, Kat.
Curly:
Thanks, Bragi. Thanks, Rossy. We’ll see everyone else next week. Bye for now.
Cat:
Thanks for having me.